"I sometimes get advice from retired entrepreneurs. They look at it and think: well, this doesn't make any sense at all. They then start giving advice and say that we should open the launderette in the evening and during the weekend, because you can earn much more money then. I always have to explain: we have a launderette but we are not a launderette. Our aim is for the ladies to have a nice place where they can meet each other and work together. Ironing together, washing together and cooking together. We earn a certain amount with which we can pay the rent. The ladies know that and they are very proud of it. If I were to ask the ladies to come in the evening, because we would then be able to produce more, the whole effect would be gone.”